Plans for Greenhithe marina resurface (From News Shopper)
Published Date: 4:19pm Wednesday 25th April 2012
Landlord of Sir John Franklin pub Gary Snell and with secretary of Greenhithe Community Group,Tim Carrington with their petition last year. Photo courtesy of the News Shopper |
WHY THE TOWN NEEDS A MARINA by GMRA
It is sad and depressing to read the lead article in
this week’s News Shopper by
Kelly Smale.
It is equally sad and depressing to see a recycled photograph of a prominent local businessman pub manager Gary Snell photographed alongside fallen Town Mayor and ex-Swanscombe and Greenhithe Resident Association Town Councillor Tim Carrington clutching what we believe to be a litigious 214-signature petition against the marina plans.
Since being forced to step down as a Town Councillor for
MISCONDUCT:
- in that he (Mr Carrington) had damaged the reputation of the office of Town Mayor and the reputation of the Town Council;
- That he had used his position improperly to his own or someone else’s advantage or disadvantage;
- That he had failed to declare a personal interest at a meeting (Finance and General Purposes Committee meeting 6 April 2006 and Town Council meeting 20 April 2006);
- That he had breached the Council’s Standing Orders by issuing orders, instructions of direction that he was not authorised to do so by the Council, or relevant Committee or Sub-Committee (Standing Order 35(b)).
AGENDA ITEM 5 STANDARDS COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY 14 MARCH 2007 REPORT ON ALLEGED MISCONDUCT BY COUNCILLOR T J CARRINGTON
Mr Carrington appears to have reinvented himself as a
self-proclaimed ‘Community Activist’ and apparently he is also the Secretary of
the Greenhithe Community Group.
The article it seems is based on the views of this small but
very affective group of mostly ex but also current Town Councillors which
unfortunately and disappointingly neither shows any regard for the merits of
what a marina could do for Greenhithe and the area as a whole; such disregard
exposes a complete lack of understanding of marina operations and economics.
Possibly this is because the developer never provided a
complete financial evaluation of its original marina proposals but clearly
Dartford Borough Council were convinced by the merits of a marina at this
location when they (DBC) approved outline planning consent for a 350 berth
marina in the late 80s. In fact, many residents living in Greenhithe today were
attracted to the area by the promise of a marina.
Years on the promised level of residential development has
ensued without providing the provision of Council planned riverside community
facilities associated with the approved 350-berth marina development.
More recently there were proposals from private enterprise,
yes even "yachties" and businessmen, to build a marina at Greenhithe;
unfortunately those proposals were always turned down by the council.
But why when it is clear that the promise of a marina along
with the residential development of the waterfront helped turn the economic
fortunes of Greenhithe around at a time when in the late 80s early 90s many
properties suffered negative equity as a result of the financial crises we all
know as ‘Boom and Bust’.
Today we face a different set of challenges which following
the collapse of the world banking system has led to a global banking crisis.
The impact of which is clearly being felt by Governments, International
organisations, financial Institutions, businesses both large and small
worldwide, and here locally the ‘Credit Crunch’ has made private borrowing more
difficult, if not impossible.
Add to that the governments’ severe austere measures,
cutbacks in public services and the banks reluctance to provide finance have made taking
out a mortgage more difficult than it had been for years, especially for
first-time buyers. This is being felt by every individual on the street and in
some cases the economy has had a devastating impact on the quality of everyday
life all of which has led to an unprecedented lack of confidence in our
domestic property market.
If Global warning has taught us anything then its "think globally act locally". However GMRA is not suggesting that a marina at Greenhithe is going to solve the world banking crises that’s just silly but in these tough times it could help restore some confidence back into the local property market and the area as a whole by attracting new home buyers and investment to Greenhithe at a time when it is needed the most.
If Global warning has taught us anything then its "think globally act locally". However GMRA is not suggesting that a marina at Greenhithe is going to solve the world banking crises that’s just silly but in these tough times it could help restore some confidence back into the local property market and the area as a whole by attracting new home buyers and investment to Greenhithe at a time when it is needed the most.
Marinas have been built all over the UK and throughout the
world and it is clear that businesses and government authorities do not build
marinas for altruistic reasons.
They build them because recreational boating brings profits,
progress and employment plus many associated developments bringing prosperity
to local communities.
A recent survey in the Yachting Monthly magazine showed the
average British cruising yacht owner is 50 years old, keeps a 32ft yacht in a
£4,000pa marina berth, lives at least 65 miles from the sea and drives to the
marina around 12 weekends between April and October.
Other statistics quoted were that abroad, 93% of boats are berthed in a marina while in Holland and the Baltic every boat is berthed in a marina, but in the UK only 55% are – leaving opportunities for the further development of marina berths.
In 2010-11 the UK average marina berth cost circa £3,550pa but £4,750 and more per annum on the south coast.
There is a severe shortage of marina berths in the UK, with boat owners having to wait for several years for a berth.
Kim Matthews, who owns the Pier Hotel pub in Greenhithe High Street, is reported in the News Shopper to have said: "There's a major parking problem now and it's just going to make it 100 times worse”. "We will lose customers because there will be physically nowhere to park at all”.
Other statistics quoted were that abroad, 93% of boats are berthed in a marina while in Holland and the Baltic every boat is berthed in a marina, but in the UK only 55% are – leaving opportunities for the further development of marina berths.
In 2010-11 the UK average marina berth cost circa £3,550pa but £4,750 and more per annum on the south coast.
There is a severe shortage of marina berths in the UK, with boat owners having to wait for several years for a berth.
Kim Matthews, who owns the Pier Hotel pub in Greenhithe High Street, is reported in the News Shopper to have said: "There's a major parking problem now and it's just going to make it 100 times worse”. "We will lose customers because there will be physically nowhere to park at all”.
We understand the concern however as there is no evidence to support this view, we urge caution about using such rhetoric as it could cause hysteria, and therefore without proper foundation this is seen as nothing more than scaremongering.
At a meeting of the Joint Transportation Board on 6 December
2011 at Dartford Borough Council it emerged that more than two hundred (200)
vehicles have been removed from Greenhithe streets thereby improving traffic
movement and safety related pressures they had caused. It is therefore clear
that the introduction of CPZs have been effective in deterring commuter parking
in residential streets.
A copy of the full report that went before the Joint
Transportation Board can be downloaded via the following link: Chairman’s
Update Greenhithe Parking Review
Pier Road and High Street: Residents here did not support
the council’s initial parking management proposals and following discussions
led by Mr Carrington and supported by former Swanscombe and Greenhithe Town
Mayor Councillor Peter Harman the proposals were deleted.
This led to 19 on street parking spaces at the eastern end
of the village being unprotected meaning those spaces were not subject to the
newly introduced Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) on the Avenue, Pier Road and
The High Street.
Mr Carrington was the chief objector to the Councils
original proposals and many residents having taken his advice to reject the
Councils parking measures at that end of the village are now requesting parking
controls be introduced.
Residents here are now reporting increased parking related
problems and have requested a parking management scheme, however we are yet to
see any physical evidence that suggests commuter parking has become a problem
and it seems that Mr Carrington and the Greenhithe Community Group may have cried
‘WOLF’ once too often, perhaps even for the last time!
It is clear from the councils own report that residents’
feedback has been mostly positive with only a few of the one thousand
households reporting varying degrees of dissatisfaction with the scheme for
various reasons.
Never the less Mr Carrington, of Greenhithe High Street, is reported in the News Shopper to have said "Since the last set of plans were rejected by
the Planning Inspectorate in 2011 there has been a marked increase of vehicles
chasing the limited unrestricted parking spaces available in Greenhithe due to
new housing development”.
"A 200 berth marina will only exacerbate an already
overburdened village and we are sure Dartford’s Councillors will again sensibly
reject unanimously this new proposal as they did the previous two".
Clearly
Councillors have in the past listened to the advice of Mr Carrington and Mr
Harman, The Greenhithe Community Group, instead of advice from planning
officers, hopefully and unlike Mr Carrington, the planning committee will at least
wait until they have seen the revised proposals before proclaiming them sunk.
The constant cry of WOLF has clearly contributed to the failure of the previous
marina proposals; however the previous plans were not turned down on parking
grounds alone. In fact, the developer was awarded a cost judgement against the
Council when Councillors added a fourth reason for refusal which
was clearly influenced by those with close ties to the planning committee
members. We hope council tax payers realise that very large sums of their money
have been expended, much, if not the major portion of this, on paying lawyers
and consultants.
This is what the Planning inspector said about that
decision:
“The Council did not turn down the application purely on
parking grounds but mainly due to the ‘knock-on’ implications of relying on
public or street parking and of short-term stopping near the passageway. However,
based on the actual conditions along High Street an objective assessment
would also have found that there is scope for loading and unloading to occur
without creating hazards. Furthermore there is no evidence to indicate that use
of the car parks by those using the marina would have any adverse implications
for others since there is adequate space within them at weekends to accommodate
extra vehicles. The concern about the quality and general amenities of the
conservation area was not spelt out".
"Paragraph B20 indicates that planning authorities are not
bound to accept the recommendations of their officers. Whilst local knowledge
is important it was not translated into an adequate justification for the
stance taken especially in the light of Planning Policy Guidance Note 13: Transport. Indeed, no reasonable
planning grounds were shown for imposing the fourth reason for refusal in
addition to the three advised by officers.
Therefore, as set out in paragraph B17, a partial award is
warranted in that unreasonable behaviour resulting in unnecessary expense, as
described in Circular 03/2009, took place".
Costs Order
In exercise of the powers under section 250(5) of the Local
Government Act 1972 and Schedule 6 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 as
amended, and all other enabling powers in that behalf, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED
that Dartford Borough Council shall pay to Greenhithe Marina (Management) LLP
the costs of the appeal proceedings described in the heading of this decision
limited to those costs incurred in respect of Ground 04 of the decision notice
dated 24 December 2010.
The applicant is now invited to submit to Dartford Borough
Council to whom a copy of this decision has been sent, details of those costs
with a view to reaching agreement as to the amount. In the event that the
parties cannot agree on the amount, a copy of the guidance note on how to apply
for a detailed assessment by the Senior Courts Costs Office is enclosed.
David Smith
INSPECTOR
The inspectorate’s full report is available via the following
link: http://publicaccess.dartford.gov.uk/online-applications/files/E5AB83A41C99D44F41B4A9DB129F1ECD/pdf/10_00805_OUT-APPEAL_DECISION_-_COSTS-102286821.pdf
Our members and readers will recall early this year GMRA
blog acknowledged the positive impact the pay and display regime was also
having on the Public Car Parks which has had the effect of freeing up
additional visitor parking.
In total we understand that there are nearly Six Hundred
(600) less commuter related vehicles parked in and around the Streets near to
Greenhithe Railway Station each day.
This is clearly welcome news and a job well done resulting
from the Councils efforts, which many of our members believe would never have
come to fruition had it not been for the marina planning application. A
review of available parking spaces near to the proposed marina entrance can be
found via the following link: http://www.flickr.com//photos/thegmra_blog/show/
Those who oppose a marina should ask themselves if they
truly believe that everyone else in the UK is out of step except Swanscombe
& Greenhithe.
Local residents Maria and her husband are experienced sailors and they support the plans for a marina said “the marina proposals will mainly be targeted at residents, therefore additional parking will only be ad hoc”
Local residents Maria and her husband are experienced sailors and they support the plans for a marina said “the marina proposals will mainly be targeted at residents, therefore additional parking will only be ad hoc”
Paul a GMRA member from Ingress Park said “If parking was
that much of an issue for the pub then why on earth did the Council allow the
pub to build an outside deck on the pubs 14 space car park”.
Our members love the Pier Hotel Pub and we know Kim Matthews
runs a fantastic pub, Kim is also responsible for the pubs growing reputation
for serving fantastic food at reasonable prices and if the marina was to get
built then we are sure visitors to the marina especially those by boat will
also love the Pier Hotel Pub.
Contrary to some opinions, particularly those of the Sir John Franklin Pub Managers Allison and Gary Snell, recreational boat owners
generally do not bring their own sandwiches, sit on their boat, eat the sandwiches
and then go home. They spend money in local restaurants, pubs and shops.
Many stay with their families in local hotels, guest houses and holiday flats and use local businesses for repairs and maintenance in winter as well as during the season.
Recreational marine activity brings in several ancillary business needs, including engineering, engine overhaul and maintenance, electrics, electronics, plastics, joinery, storage and general boat care.
Even with a modest marina in Greenhithe it is feasible that boat builders could be attracted to the area and why the developers’ future plans include the possibility for development at Swanscombe Peninsula West to provide a new Swanscombe Yacht club, boat launching facilities with boat storage and repair services where there is space and the labour force available.
If you are going to develop the Dartford 9-mile area of waterfront then you cannot run such businesses without a marina to support those facilities.
Many stay with their families in local hotels, guest houses and holiday flats and use local businesses for repairs and maintenance in winter as well as during the season.
Recreational marine activity brings in several ancillary business needs, including engineering, engine overhaul and maintenance, electrics, electronics, plastics, joinery, storage and general boat care.
Even with a modest marina in Greenhithe it is feasible that boat builders could be attracted to the area and why the developers’ future plans include the possibility for development at Swanscombe Peninsula West to provide a new Swanscombe Yacht club, boat launching facilities with boat storage and repair services where there is space and the labour force available.
If you are going to develop the Dartford 9-mile area of waterfront then you cannot run such businesses without a marina to support those facilities.
Very well done, good piece, very informative. All we would add is we did not refuse to comment as reported in the article, in fact we politely declined. This is what we said to Ms Kelly Smale the reporter behind the story in an email:
ReplyDeleteHi Kelly,
Thank you for your questions.
We are at a stage where we are still speaking to people and until we have completed that process it’s just not possible or practical for us to comment. So I’m afraid that our official position is no comment at this time but we promise to get back to you when we can.
Off the record can I just point out that should Greenhithe Marina decide to submit a revised planning application then that would be at Dartford and not Gravesham Council.
Kind regards,
Chelsea
Hello my name is lilly Paxton. I am new to the area and I'd like to join the Greenhithe Marina Residents Association can you please send details to lilly.paxton@consultant.com thank you.
ReplyDeleteI look forward to hearing from you soon.
Lilly Paxton
It has emerged in the last day or so that so-called litigious 214-signature petition against the marina plans was paid for by offering customers FREE drinks... and it still took them 18 months to reach 200 signatures most of whom live outside the area... funny that, not really.
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